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Info-Hams Digest            Fri,  1 Jul 94       Volume 94 : Issue  731

Today's Topics:
                        AEA IsoLoop - Opinion
                      Best dual-band HT antenna
                     Call-Sign Prefixes (3 msgs)
                        FIELD DAY 1994 REPORT
                                IC229H
                    IPS Daily Report - 01 July 94
             Newbie license question -- change of address
                        Re:Call-Sign Prefixes
                    Temp. Conversion Chart: F & C?
                     Test-to-license-in-hand time
                Waiting for License?  Wait some more.
        Where is the best place to install a low pass filter?

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Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 19:15:08 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp![e-mail]
Subject: AEA IsoLoop - Opinion
To: [e-mail]

David Stockton ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Alan Bloom ([e-mail]) wrote:

: : The laws of physics show no such thing.  It is theoretically possible
: : for a small loop to be 100% efficient.  It's true that it's hard to
: : approach that ideal in practice, but the Isoloop comes impressively
: : close.

: ...  100% efficiency can be approached, and the result on transmit is
: easily understood;  all the watts you stuff up the cable get radiated.
: On receive, it is possible to get different levels of output from
: different 100% efficient, perfect, lossless antennae. The difference is
: in the effective capture area of different designs. ...

I can't tell for sure from the above quote whether you made the famous
antenna aperture mistake or not.  Please forgive me if the following is
something you already know:

    "Two antennas of equal gain have the same aperture."

For example, a dipole has an aperture of approximately 1/8 square
wavelength.  A small 100%-efficient loop antenna has only slightly less
aperture (i.e. almost the same gain) no matter how physically small the
loop is.  It seems counter-intuitive that a loop with an area of
1/500 square wavelength can have approximately the same aperture as a
full-sized half-wave dipole, but it's a fact.

Having said that, let me admit that in real life, 100%-efficient
small loop antennas can be devilishly difficult to build.  The radiation
resistance of a small loop is proportional to the square of the loop
area, which is proportional to the square of the diameter.  So the
radiation resistance is proportional to the FOURTH POWER of the loop
diameter.  For example, a 1-meter loop on the 20 meter band has a
radiation resistance on the order of .04 ohms (as I recall).  If the
loop's loss resistance is a tenth of an ohm, then the antenna
efficiency is only 29% (-5.4 dB).

AEA did a couple clever things to overcome efficiency problems in the
Isoloop.  One was to use a single loop coupling, which eliminates lossy
matching coils or transformers.  The other was to use a split-stator
capacitor, which removes the need to run high circulating currents
through a sliding contact.  I noticed that the person who designed the
QST article's Isoloop clone missed that subtlety in the design.

AL N1AL

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Date: 29 Jun 94 15:43:40 EDT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!ceylon!sundog.tiac.net!usenet.elf.com!rpi!psinntp!main03![e-mail]
Subject: Best dual-band HT antenna
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Nick Stefanisko) writes:
> I have a Comet CH-72S, it is much better than the duck I got with my IC24at.
> But it seams to work about the same as the one I got with my FT-530(Yaesu).
> The one bad thing about the Comet is that it is 15inces long. They say
The stock Yaesu duck (YHA28) on my FT470 works well too. About the same as an
Anli dual band duck that I had bought before. The Yaesu's about 8" but the
Anli's about 15" too. FYI, even IN a car they both work much better than an
MFJ dual band mag-mount mobile dummy load on the roof!
Joe - AA3GN
--
Joe Landis - System & Network Mgr. - North American Drager Co. Telford, PA
[e-mail] | uupsi5!main03!landisj | AA3GN@WB3JOE.#EPA.PA.USA
Opinions are mine only, and do not reflect those of my employer.

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Date: 1 Jul 1994 18:56:54 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Call-Sign Prefixes
To: [e-mail]

>        I am going to be travelling through the U.S. this summer, and I
>already posted a message asking whether my Canadian Amateur license is good
>in the U.S. as well, to which the answer was Yes.  Apparently I have to
>identify myself with my callsign followed by the prefix followed by "\ <and
>then the prefix of the area that I'm in"  How do I know what the prefix
>should be?  The ARRL handbook just says that the U.S. callsign prefixes are
>between "WAA-WZZ"!
>                                                        Graham
>

I have been in OHIO for 3 years and I have been identifying myself as
N8/SV2ABQ

It could have easily been W8/SV2ABQ or K8/SV2ABQ !!!
(As courtesy to the country you are visiting you preceed your
callsign with its prefix)

anthony  N8/SV2ABQ
[e-mail]

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Date: 1 Jul 1994 19:07:07 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!NewsWatcher![e-mail]
Subject: Call-Sign Prefixes
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Graham
Butler) wrote:

>         I am going to be travelling through the U.S. this summer, and I
> already posted a message asking whether my Canadian Amateur license is good
> in the U.S. as well, to which the answer was Yes.  Apparently I have to
> identify myself with my callsign followed by the prefix followed by "\ <and
> then the prefix of the area that I'm in"  How do I know what the prefix
> should be?  The ARRL handbook just says that the U.S. callsign prefixes are
> between "WAA-WZZ"!
>                                                         Graham

Every year we have a visitor from the UK and he always signs as G3YWI/W1 or
G3YWI STROKE WHISKEY ONE. I have a feeling you might use the same although
you'll be moving from call region to call region. Check with the folks at
the ARRL.

**DISCLAIMER** Even though I disagree with some of the ARRL's policies
they, on some occasions, do provide admirable service to amateurs.

--
== Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
== [e-mail], Tel. [phone] Fax. [phone]
== The opinions above are my own and not those of my employer.

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Date: 1 Jul 1994 19:42:46 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!cville-srv.wam.umd.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Call-Sign Prefixes
To: [e-mail]

In article <Anthony_Pelliccio-010794150655@138.16.64.44>,
Tony Pelliccio <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Graham
>Butler) wrote:
>
>>         I am going to be travelling through the U.S. this summer, and I
>> already posted a message asking whether my Canadian Amateur license is good
>> in the U.S. as well, to which the answer was Yes.  Apparently I have to
>> identify myself with my callsign followed by the prefix followed by "\ <and
>> then the prefix of the area that I'm in"  How do I know what the prefix
>> should be?  The ARRL handbook just says that the U.S. callsign prefixes are
>> between "WAA-WZZ"!
>>                                                         Graham
>
>Every year we have a visitor from the UK and he always signs as G3YWI/W1 or
>G3YWI STROKE WHISKEY ONE. I have a feeling you might use the same although
>you'll be moving from call region to call region. Check with the folks at
>the ARRL.
>
I thought this was the way, too.  Apparently the legal way to do it is

  VE3/NF3I, as I'm operating in Canada but using my own call.

Similarly, when a VE station (VE#XXX) is in Michigan (8-land), he would
sign W8/VE#XXX, NOT VE#XXX/W8.  Just the legalities of it; it doesn't
really matter to which which anybody actually does, as the general idea
still comes across.

Call area   0  Colorado, Kansas, Nebraska, South & North Dakota, Minnesota,
               Iowa, Missouri
            1  Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Is.,
               Connecticut
            2  New York & New Jersey
            3  Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, and District of Columbia
            4  Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, North & South Carolina,
               Georgia, Florida, Alabama
            5  Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico,
               Arkansas
            6  California
            7  Arizona, Nevada, Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, Oregon, Washington,
               Montana
            8  Ohio, Michigan, West Virginis
            9  Illinois, Inidana, Wisconsin

Good luck.

--
73,                            _________   _________  The
                            \ /  Long   Original
Scott Rosenfeld  Amateur Radio NF3I  Burtonsville, MD     |   Live    $5.00
  WAC-CW/SSB  WAS  DXCC - 125 QSLed on dipoles __________| Dipoles! Antenna!

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Date: 01 Jul 1994 20:15:05 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!news.pop.psu.edu!psuvax1!news.cc.swarthmore.edu!netnews.upenn.edu!netnews.upenn.edu![e-mail]
Subject: FIELD DAY 1994 REPORT
To: [e-mail]

>How did you operate a 9A station?  I coordinated the Clear Lake ARC's Field
>Day using 5A with a Novice/Tech + and OSCAR (145MHz and 430MHz) and we had
>terrible interference between the HF rigs-- if you were monitoring on one
>band and another station keyed up, you heard "CQ Field Day" from the
>nearby tranceiver that would swamp out any other signal you were trying to
>receive.

W3QV, 9A, Eastern PA.

N3IEI was the one primarily responsible for running the show.

Well, we were at the antenna site for all the commercial TV stations in the
Philly area.  Surprisingly, we did not have trouble with interference with
their HIGH power transmissions.  AS for interference between ham stations,
we were in the middle of a field so were able to spread out a bit.  Some
antennas were strung out on the TV station towers.  Others used their own
stand alone masts.  A cherry picker was available to string up on trees.
Due to the ability to spread out all over the place and the ability to place
antennas whereever we wished, there were no interference problems.

It helps when one of they guys running Field Day is the network's VP in
charge of engineering :)  Using company equipment was no problem (i.e.,
toilet facilities, emergency generators, towers).  I got a great tour
of the NBC (? Channel 3, Philadelphia) transmission facilities to boot!

--
Medical Image Processing Group     |        73 de Conway Yee, N2JWQ
411 Blockley Hall                  |  EMAIL     : [e-mail]
423 Guardian Drive                 |  TELEPHONE : [phone]
Philadelphia, PA 19104-6021 (USA)  |  FAX       : [phone]

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Date: Fri, 01 Jul 94 14:33:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!deep.rsoft.bc.ca!mindlink.bc.ca![e-mail]
Subject: IC229H
To: [e-mail]

Hi...

I'm wondering if anybody can help me with this problem that I'm having with
my IC-229H...  For some odd reason every few days, with the radio turned
off, the memory in the radio is dumped, I've had the backup battery changed
already so it couldn't be that.  I don't know if this is a common problem
or not, but if anybody knows what could be wrong please leave me a message,
thanks.  73

[e-mail]
or
Cabot@shoreline.
ca

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Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 23:17:49 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!msuinfo!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!metro!ipso![e-mail]
Subject: IPS Daily Report - 01 July 94
To: [e-mail]

SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT
ISSUED AT 1/2330Z JULY 1994 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
SUMMARY FOR 1 JULY AND FORECAST UP TO 4 JULY

IPS Disturbance Warning 17 was issued on 22 June and is current for
interval 24 June to 4 July
-----------------------------------------------------------
1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: moderate

Flares: none.

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 087/030

GOES satellite data for 30 June
       Daily Proton Fluence >1 MeV:   2.7E+06
       Daily Proton Fluence >10 MeV:  6.2E+04
       Daily Electron Fluence >2 MeV: 4.8E+08
       X-ray background: A7.8
Fluence (flux accumulation over 24hrs)/ cm2-ster-day.

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             02 July            03 July            04 July
Activity     Low                Low                Low
Fadeouts     None expected      None expected      None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 089/033

1C. SOLAR COMMENT
None.
-----------------------------------------------------------
2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: quiet to active

Estimated Indices : A   K           Observed A Index 30 June
    Learmonth       22  4444 2244
    Fredericksburg  17                          17
    Planetary       18                          17

Observed Kp for 30 June: 3444 3333


2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
DATE      Ap    CONDITIONS
02 Jul    15    Unsettled to active.
03 Jul    20    Unsettled to active.
04 Jul    15    Unsettled to active.

2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
No significant effect is expected from the M2 flare that occurred
late on 30 June.
-----------------------------------------------------------
3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
                LATITUDE BAND
DATE        LOW            MIDDLE         HIGH
01 Jul      fair-normal    fair           poor-normal
PCA Event : None.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
                LATITUDE BAND
DATE        LOW            MIDDLE         HIGH
02 Jul      normal         fair-normal    poor-fair
03 Jul      normal         fair-normal    poor-fair
04 Jul      normal         fair-normal    poor-fair
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
Geomagnetic activity continues to degrade propagation conditions at
mid and high lats.
-----------------------------------------------------------
4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUFs at Sydney were near predicted monthly values during local
daylight hours, and 15-40% enhanced during local night.

Observed T index for 01 July:  39

Predicted Monthly T Index for July is 30.

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
DATE   T-index  MUFs
02 Jul    25    Near predicted monthly values.
03 Jul    30    Near predicted monthly values.
04 Jul    30    Near predicted monthly values.


4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
Regular Sporadic E layer and Spread F may have degraded local
propagations conditions yesterday. Similar conditions are expected
for today.

--
IPS Regional Warning Centre, Sydney           |IPS Radio and Space Services
email: [e-mail]  fax: [phone]      |PO Box 5606
RWC Duty Forecaster   tel: [phone]      |West Chatswood NSW 2057
Recorded Message      tel: [phone]      |AUSTRALIA

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Date: 1 Jul 1994 18:54:03 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!icon!hpchase.rose.hp.com![e-mail]
Subject: Newbie license question -- change of address
To: [e-mail]

Freeman A. Kilpatrick ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I recently took my tech exam (May 16), and I'm now waiting the long
: four months for my license.  However, I moved this week, and I'm not
: sure if I should file a change of address with the FCC, or if I
: should just wait for the normal Post Office forwarding.  Can anyone
: give me any guidance?

This is only a partial answer to your question.  You should definitely
file a change of address with the FCC by filling out another Form 610
and mark the change of address box.  You should do this anytime you move.

However, you have a unique situation in that you don't actually have a
license yet, so you have to figure out what to do about getting your
initial license.  My guess is that the post office forwarding should
take care of it - you might want to check with the post office about
how long the forwarding is in effect.  Then, once you get your callsign,
file the form 610 to let the FCC know where you've moved to.

Chris Moore
N6IYS
[e-mail]

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Date: 01 Jul 1994 19:26:57 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!ceylon!news2.near.net!info-server.bbn.com!news![e-mail]
Subject: Re:Call-Sign Prefixes
To: [e-mail]

In article <2v1otm$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Anthony H Aletras) writes:
   >                               Apparently I have to
   >identify myself with my callsign followed by the prefix followed by "\ <and
   >then the prefix of the area that I'm in"  How do I know what the prefix
   >should be?

   I have been in OHIO for 3 years and I have been identifying myself as
   N8/SV2ABQ

   It could have easily been W8/SV2ABQ or K8/SV2ABQ !!!

The usual is to use W8 (or the appropriate number for the call
district); or KH6 or KL7 or KP4 if you are visiting, say, Hawaii or
Alaska or Puerto Rico.

   (As courtesy to the country you are visiting you preceed your
   callsign with its prefix)

In the case of Canadian hams, this is governed by the reciprocal
agreement between the two countries; I don't know the answer, but I
think this may be incorrect for hams from Canada.

    /JBL
=
Nets: [e-mail]  |  "Oops."
pots: [phone]  |
ARS:  KD1ON          |                                            -- Lothos

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Date: 30 Jun 94 14:41:58 EDT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!ceylon!sundog.tiac.net!usenet.elf.com!rpi!psinntp!main03![e-mail]
Subject: Temp. Conversion Chart: F & C?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Tom Bruhns) writes:
> Heh, heh, an even easier way to solve the whole problem would be for
> us Americans to just drop F, then there would be no need for conversions.
> (Easy for me to say--I was trained as a chemist.  What the heck is
> degrees F??  ;-)  Does anyone in the world besides us use F??
>
> 73, K7ITM
>
Maybe the world ought to drop C and adopt F. :-) :-) :-)
--
Joe Landis - System & Network Mgr. - North American Drager Co. Telford, PA
[e-mail] | uupsi5!main03!landisj | AA3GN@WB3JOE.#EPA.PA.USA
Opinions are mine only, and do not reflect those of my employer.

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Date: 1 Jul 1994 23:49:04 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!prairienet.org![e-mail]
Subject: Test-to-license-in-hand time
To: [e-mail]

Passed technician test:  March 20

Call issued:  June 21

License mailed:  June 27

License received:  July 1

I live in Urbana, IL--not a 4-day trip from PA....


---Dan, N9XDK
--

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Date: 1 Jul 1994 17:37:03 -0400
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!news.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com![e-mail]
Subject: Waiting for License?  Wait some more.
To: [e-mail]

It took me ten weeks to the day from when I passed my test until I
received my license.  It was tough waiting all those weeks.

Warren Whitby
KE4ITL

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Date: 1 Jul 1994 19:40:03 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!ssd.intel.com!chnews!scorpion.ch.intel.com![e-mail]
Subject: Where is the best place to install a low pass filter?
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Tom Boza, WB7ASR) writes:

>>Can someone tell me where the best place is to install my
>>Drake 1KW low pass filter?

>>    1) Between my HF transceiver and my 1KW RF amp
>>    2) Between my 1 KW RF amp and my 1KW antenna tuner
>>    3) Between my 1KW antenna tuner and my antenna
>>    4) Sell it at the next ham fest
>>    5) Anywhere after the transceiver

In article <2v1jcu$[e-mail]>,
Herb Sims, KU0C <[e-mail]> wrote:

>The answer is 1.  The reason is as follows:

>The transceiver is solid state and thus generates the most harmonics
>due to non- linear characteristics (this applies to all amplifiers).
>So if the the filter is between the rig and amp the harmonics from
>the rig will be attenuated and thus not have any chance to be
>amplified by the amp.

I don't think it is necessarily true that solid-state -> higher harmonics.

Regardless of this, though, modern transceivers have a bank of
low-pass filters that are switched into the output line dependent on
operating frequency.  These filters assure that the transceiver
exceeds Part 97 requirements over the entire spectrum.

>The second reason is (assuming a tube amp) that the amplifier
>basically has a matching network on both the input and output of the
>amplifier, what you are doing when you tune the amplifier is matching
>the output impedance of the tubes (the amplifier) to the antenna (50
>ohms).  Since this tuning process has a small operating range (also
>known as bandwidth) the harmonics never make it out of the amplifier.

Well, imperfect components rear their ugly heads.  The tuning networks
you describe are made out of solenoidal coils and wire-connected
capacitors that become something else at VHF.  These components don't
supply the rejection you might think they do up there at the 23rd
harmonic.  And he *was* asking about a TVI filter. Those are designed
with a 41 MHz corner, at least an 80 dB/decade roll-off, and shielded
compartments between sections.

However, in this era of zero-bias triodes, most amplifiers run class
B (linear), even for CW.  So the prime culprit in amateur-caused
TVI cases, the over-driven, class-C operated, plate-modulated final
tube sitting on a breadboard has, thankfully, faded into history.
Today's HF rigs, even the max. power jobs, are pretty clean well
up through VHF.

I still opt for 2), although it's more of an insurance policy.

Jim Bromley, W5GYJ  <[e-mail]>

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Date: 1 Jul 1994 14:34 CDT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!news.uh.edu!elroy.uh.edu![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <2upulv$[e-mail]>, <2uv5qr$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: FIELD DAY 1994 REPORT

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Conway Yee) writes...
>I went with a local club which ran a 9A station.  Had a ball but
                                      ^^
>learned a big lesson.  DO NOT bring your girlfriend with you.  I had
>to leave early since she got bored.  C'est la vie.
>
>
>--
>Medical Image Processing Group     |        73 de Conway Yee, N2JWQ
>411 Blockley Hall                  |  EMAIL     : [e-mail]
>423 Guardian Drive                 |  TELEPHONE : [phone]
>Philadelphia, PA 19104-6021 (USA)  |  FAX       : [phone]

How did you operate a 9A station?  I coordinated the Clear Lake ARC's Field
Day using 5A with a Novice/Tech + and OSCAR (145MHz and 430MHz) and we had
terrible interference between the HF rigs-- if you were monitoring on one
band and another station keyed up, you heard "CQ Field Day" from the
nearby tranceiver that would swamp out any other signal you were trying to
receive.

73's de kb5pgy

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Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 19:27:30 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!news.duke.edu!eff!news.umbc.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!ulowell!wang![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <edh.772904399@hpuerca>, <[e-mail]>news.d
Subject : Re: Temp. Conversion Chart: F & C?

[e-mail] (hamilton on BIX) writes:

>While we're on the topic of conversions, can someone help me
>out with some others that have been really boggling me?

>   MHz       to   KHz
>   Feet      to   Inches
>   Dollars   to   Cents

>Also, what is that stuff that collects in your belly button
>called?

While we're on the subject, how about:

MHz to Megacycles
Feet to Hands
Dollars to Sense

And that stuff in your belly button - please send it to me.  I'm
making a sweater.


By the way, there is a program on most unix systems called "units"
that will convert from one thing to another.  I don't know what it
will do to belly-button lint, though.
--
Dave Bushong, Wang Laboratories, Inc.

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